• IcePee@lemmy.beru.co
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    15 hours ago

    But if you seriously believe those other guys are that bad, just break out into a civil/world war already, there’s basically no other way to solve that problem…

    That’s quite reductive. One can see someone as that bad, but still find them redeemable. But it’s a two way street. There needs to be a bit of personal responsibility.

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      It is reductive, mostly because I’m not capable of considering someone redeemable and irredeemable at the same time. Take your pick. It is a two way street, and you see them as that flawed and they certainly aren’t going to cross outside of their bubble, no chance to ever meet on that street.

      I don’t live in lala land, but then again, I’m not the one seeing all of them that flawed. To me, that’s like saying that every member of a cult that went to do something infamous was despicable, it shows zero psychological awareness.

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        8 hours ago

        One of the things that cults do is carve off people from the wider populace. It’s them that say “everyone is against you” it’s them that say that “there’s no way back, so you might as well throw your lot in with us. We are the only ones that understand and accept you. As long as you behave in a way that we feel is acceptable, or do something for us”.

        Staying in the cult starts off the easy path rather than seek to change yourself. Then, after a while you start falling for the sunk cost fallacy. It’s that, that keeps you in the long term even when times get tough.

        But, there is always redemption, a way out. And blaming your whole life on other people isn’t a particularly efficient tactic. Again, personal responsibility.

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          7 hours ago

          Then either they are that flawed and are really literal Nazis getting their Nazi tattoos, or they get increasingly sucked into participating within a cult, take your pick.

          You know one way that helps them carve off people from the wider populace? Being accused of having a flaw greater than it really is, carving them away from those they should be sticking to from their side and letting them be pulled into the cult’s bubble. And for many, that flaw is simply being senile, not racist, and even then still generally needing a fair dose of cult programming to eventually instill those racist sentiments.