You can, of course, think differently.

And I do. It’s been one argument the entire time, and I don’t see how it’s worth reframing the parallel when you seem not to (or have chosen not to) understand it the first two times.

Good day.

Edite: I see I typed Hamas when I meant to type Hezbollah in one place. Will correct now. I admit that was potentially confusing.

The pagers were used by Hezbollah, not Hamas.

I realize that, I was drawing a parallel between the two circumstances.

And again - when you drop a bomb, you can credibly have made an attempt to ensure no one is in the vicinity who you don’t intend to bomb. (Not that israel seems to do this) - this is especially true with modern technology.

You cannot reasonably predict the path that a pager takes once it is shipped, no matter who it is intended for, not least because no one expects a pager to be the source of a deadly threat. You control who owns that “bomb” you have just sent into the world only until the moment it is unpacked and given to the first person who takes possession of it.

They planted bombs in hardware that is used exclusively by Hezbollah operatives and their accomplices to evade gathering sigint. Yes, civilians got hurt. That’s the nature of war, and what makes it so horrible - people who might hold no malice nor pose any threat to the other side get hurt and die.

How is this argument different than defending the use of landmines?

So the pagers were ordered by Hezbollah. You send that text you don’t know if they are at a daycare picking up their kids, if they lost the pager and it’s sitting on some restaurant owner’s countertop next to some other family, etc etc etc.

There are so many things that can happen between when those pagers get rigged and sent out and the time they are detonated.

If Israel seemed at all like they tried to avoid bombing and shooting civilians in Gaza we could at least defend their actions there by saying “clearly they are trying to avoid civilian casualties” (we can’t, but we could) - but there is nothing but hopes and prayers to avoid civilian casualties in an attack like this.

Literally if any non-governmental entity did the same thing, no one would hesitate to call it a terrorist attack. And that’s what it is here, a terrorist attack.

Edit: Acknowledging that I typed Hamas out of habit instead of Hezbollah. Corrected.

Fair point! I’d love to see the reaction of my maga neighbor with his handwritten signs about what morons and traitors Harris voters are.

Actually, it would probably involve violence or vandalism so I’d rather not. But, if I believed he would keep his hands and bullets to himself…

Why wait?

That’s nuts, I didn’t know that!

I believe the full report uses the language “epidemic” of dog shootings by police, and highlights that it’s hard to estimate accurately because many departments don’t consider it something they even need to report.

That’s how little of a shit they give about shooting your dog.

OMG LOL!

Best part is honestly further down the page:

Look, I agree with you, but you are giving the maga crowd far too much credit. The maga crowd.

Imagine for a second a single person who is going to vote Trump in November forming this thought:

one they are eating pets out of starvation/need, or it’s some kind of cultural miscommunication. Either way it’s a failure on our end to provide or educate.

That might be fake smile one. This one?

He had only one of three expressions anytime she was talking, and it was fucking creepy all on its own.

• I want to fuck the cameraman (seen in OP)
• I want the cameraman to fear me greatly (such as seen in his famous mugshot)
• Punchable, fake, practiced smile (as seen in some common Trump memes)

Or handcuffed and arrested over minor shit, or physically abused… (happy to list examples if anyone cares to challenge me on it)

💯

Still hoping to be wrong though.

So, you can save it, I’ll leave it as it is and I’ll continue to be disgusted with Israel and the world by not stepping up and stopping the genocide. You can keep posting bullshit about it being the dems fault.

Bullshit?

Harris has not indicated that she would waver in weapons sales to Israel and has not shown breaks with Biden’s handling of the war, aside from slight changes in rhetoric when addressing the human suffering in Gaza.

https://thehill.com/policy/international/4862241-harris-palestinian-activists-israel-gaza/

Also:

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/23/briefing/kamala-harris-convention-speech.html

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4852729-harris-issues-center-shifted/

I’m voting for her because she’s not Trump, with the full knowledge and expectation that she’s not going to do shit on Gaza, Police Reform, UBI, M4A, Gun Violence, or anything else that might ruffle the feathers of the “center.”

Is it OK with you for me to be vocally upset about it, in exchange for giving her my vote?

Douche and Turd Sandwich, every last time. Does get a little old.

Hoping to be pleasantly surprised by Harris once she doesn’t have to pander to the “center” - and I say “center” because anyone considering voting for Trump in the first place is not in the “center” and if they are, we’re worse off than I realized.

Call me when there’s evidence of Harris executing on policy recommended by those two (and others) not sprinting to the “center.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/23/briefing/kamala-harris-convention-speech.html

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4852729-harris-issues-center-shifted/

Until then it’s platitudes.

most true Republicans see the destruction of the conservative party by MAGA and want to defeat it to save the party.

Where were nearly all of them for the past 8 years? Oh yeah, supporting Trump and maga.

I’m glad they are going to help defeat him in 2024, but they can eat a bag of dicks after that. I’ll neither forgive nor forget the monster they invited into the nation (and I mean the entire maga crowd and mindset, not just Trump). It would be within the realm of scifi for me to vote for a Republican as so much a a local fileclerk at any point between now and when old age takes me.

I mean, being arrested doesn’t mean a crime was committed. It means he’s accused of a crime. I’ll be interested to see if there is actually a conviction in the end.

and if there is only 1 of you at a time there is no differentiation. only one of you continues experience, there you are.

In my interpretation it’s a different one of me, and that matters. Granted, I don’t expect either of us are on a path that is likely to convince the other, but fundamentally that’s my objection. (see my two different ships example)

Oh yeah that’s fascinating for sure!

The significance of the connectome stems from the realization that the structure and function of the human brain are intricately linked, through multiple levels and modes of brain connectivity. There are strong natural constraints on which neurons or neural populations can interact, or how strong or direct their interactions are. Indeed, the foundation of human cognition lies in the pattern of dynamic interactions shaped by the connectome.