I know what a tier list is, but I’m stuck on mobile right now and it was hard to find an editor to edit the tier elements with. The new format is better.
I know what a tier list is, but I’m stuck on mobile right now and it was hard to find an editor to edit the tier elements with. The new format is better.
So basically you are saying that abortions are a fact of life…
Glad to know that a country where women don’t have unwanted pregnancies is a pure fantasy, so it isn’t an objective that anyone should work towards.
Let’s not try to reduce the maternal mortality rate so that women don’t have to make the horrible choice between living and having an abortion
Let’s not have safe, effective, and available contraception so that women don’t get pregnant on accident
Let’s not try to eliminate rape so that women aren’t forcibly impregnated
No, a country with legal abortions that are unwanted isn’t achievable so we shouldn’t try to work towards it. Just like we will never eliminate gun violence, so why bother even trying to work towards it…
I feel like this is just as much of a meme as this post: https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/f7799a12-d1a3-4cc3-b682-8c2943043baa.jpeg
Which is a screenshot of an old news story.
Or this post: https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/1ef0fc84-eace-47f0-b928-7a1446e03b6c.jpeg?format=webp&thumbnail=256
Which is simply a screenshot of someones Twitter post.
So I’m pretty sure that isn’t why it is downvoted so much…
At least my content is original.
What you are describing is actually the simple truth that many worldviews and the beliefs and values that stem from them are incompatible and cannot coexist. This is the fundamental problem with the first ammendment. It assumes that people are exercising beliefs that are not diametrically opposed to each other.
Ironically, a bolt-action hunting rifle which is legal in all 50 states would be a much better choice for an assassination attempt than “assault rifles” like an AR-15 or the even less accurate AK-47. So not only can they not shoot, they apparently don’t know anything about rifles either.
The thing people do no appreciate about professional and Olympic level sports is just how far the male athletes are beyond the athletic ability of the average man.
There seems to be a notion that just because someone is a male they get to compete at the highest level of sports. This is simply not the case. The vast majority of male athletes will never even come close to reaching a professional level. Even an above average male college athlete has a snowball’s chance in hell of making it in a league like the NFL.
When we are talking about women competing with these men, we aren’t talking about competing against men with average or even above average ability (professional female athletes would mop the floor with men in the 60% percentile) we are talking about competing against the top .000001% of male athletes.
Women not only have a biological disadvantage, they have a population size disadvantage. Far more boys and men compete in sports and games. I don’t care what game or sport you are competiting in, if you have population A containing 100 randomly selected competitors and population B containing 1000 competitors, you don’t have to be a statistician to figure out that your #1 competitor and probably your entire top 10 are going to come from population B.
No, but you immediately dismissed my S and A tier objectives as fantasy and objectives that shouldn’t even be talked about. If you dismiss an objective as fantasy you aren’t going to work towards it. If I tell myself it is impossible for me to run a sub-3 hour marathon, then I am not going to put the effort in to train for it and I will certainly never achieve it, but if I believe it is possible, I will work towards it, and even though I’ll probably never achieve it, I might get close and be much happier with the results than never having tried.
This is the same flawed logic that I pointed out is being used in the gun violence “debate”. A country with no gun violence is an unachievable ideal that doesn’t reflect reality, so we shouldn’t try to restrict who has access to guns. You don’t see the parallel flawed logic there?
I was trying to find a common platitude that people on opposite sides of this issue could work towards, albiet for very different reasons.
Do we agree that unwanted pregnancies are an undesirable thing?
Do we agree that abortions are a direct result of #1?
Do we agree that abortions are an undesirable thing? If not from a moral stance, then at least in the way having an appendectomy is an undesirable thing?
If we agree on these things, then can we agree to work towards things that achieve the desired end state where abortion is legal but completely un-utilized?
I would have the exact same objective for homicide. I would love to have a country where homicide is legal but there are no homicides. Obviously that sounds ridiculous and completely unrealistic. What is the point? The point is that I want a country where nobody is murdered because nobody wants to murder anyone, not because they are afraid of legal punishment. Legal deterrence only goes so far. I am 100% confident I could murder someone and face no legal consequences, so what effect does the law have on my decision making?
This is what I have come to realize with abortion: I hate abortion, but what does changing the law really change? I don’t want mothers who only birth their babies because they are afraid of going to jail. I want mothers who love their children, both before and after birth. I don’t want women to find themselves in incredibly difficult situations with an unwanted pregnancy. But changing the law isn’t going to change anyone’s heart, and that is ultimately what I care about.