• єχтяαναgαηтєηzумє@lemm.ee
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    27 days ago

    The only way to change this decrepit system is to vote in such numbers we flood the voting booths. If Jill Stein or Cornell West have any shot, this is what has to happen to get them in office.

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      27 days ago

      There is no way to change this system by voting.

      We have to take the streets and become ungovernable until our demands are met.

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        27 days ago

        Then you end up in prison and get your wish of not being able to vote while not succeeding at changing anything.

        Life doesn’t have grand prizes. You can’t just do a revolution and then get everything you want all at once. Progress is incremental. Even for history’s successful violent revolutionaries progress took generations and you’re not one of those.

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          27 days ago

          Jim Crow wasn’t defeated by voting. Progress has always come from struggle. Voting, if it matters at all, is merely a way to decide which enemies we want in power for us to struggle against.

          Somehow you have been tricked into believing you can simply vote your way to freedom.

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            26 days ago

            Brown v Board was won in the supreme court. The Civil Rights and Voting Rights acts both only passed because they had enough votes to overcome filibusters. Without a federal government friendly to the civil rights movement the south would have been allowed to continue murdering activists with impunity.

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              26 days ago

              Brown v Board, Civil Rights and Voting Rights, it all only happened because people were in the streets and the country was becoming ungovernable. Again, all elections are for is deciding who we have to struggle against. We win by forcing them to capitulate to our demands, and we do that through mass struggle.

              They killed MLK and Malcom X for it, of course, and put people like Angela Davis in jail and forced Assata Shakur to flee the country, but you can hardly say they died without changing anything.