• Phegan@lemmy.world
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    19 days ago

    Mainstream media benefits from another trump presidency. Trump drives ratings. Ratings means sponsors, sponsors mean revenue, revenue means shares going up.

    They are corporations, not services. It’s illegal for them to not do what helps their shareholders.

    Mainstream media benefits from another trump presidency.

    • Sgt_choke_n_stroke@lemmy.world
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      18 days ago

      Yea it’s now an election of the old school vs new school and the passing of the torch. Boomers are going down kicking and screaming

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      19 days ago

      They ARE services. They’re not services run for the benefit of the public.

      I think we all got a little messed up by the few years that journalism had a bit of credibility. For the vast vast vast majority of humans on earth all forms of mass communication have been propaganda for those in power… I mean look at the Catholic Church for the best modern example

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      19 days ago

      Corporations do not have to prioritize profit above everything. The old case where that was in question is quite nuanced and worth reading about.

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    19 days ago

    Media is a circus. Dont clown around or stick head in the lions mouth and youre gonna get a low score

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    18 days ago

    It’s a low bar. If we’re now judging candidates in comparison to Trump then we’re in trouble.

    Trump isn’t the standard. He’s an anomaly, and we should aim way higher.

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    18 days ago

    She went on camera and said ‘I am a Republican’ to the applause of Democrats.

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    18 days ago

    Which pundits actually said that? Most of what I’ve read, people were saying she did pretty well. But you sure got people here believing this meme.

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      18 days ago

      Fox news. Daily beast. Daily Mail. etc. The usual suspects. But no matter what she said or did, they were going to bash her. If she were the 2nd coming they would say she was a “trans ultra-left authoritarian”.

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    19 days ago

    she also shifted right. she’s gonna ruin the enthusiasm if she keeps going like this.

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      19 days ago

      how so? I see nothing to indicate that she shifted right, just that her campaign is pushing for the moderate voters, both on dem and republican sides, which is absolutely a good strategy.

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          17 days ago

          she’s appealing to moderates, the perceived “right wing appeals” is just a policy based ripped straight from the ages of republican rhetoric that no longer exist, none of those are antithetical to the democrats in anyway, they’re all super relevant, it’s just dramatic irony.

          Harris herself is pretty far left, tim walz is from minnesota, politically left.

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            16 days ago

            She has the same views as Biden and Pelosi. If you think that’s pretty far left have you ever heard of Bernie Sanders or anyone who would actually vote for m4a, decriminalizing immigration, or putting an arms embargo in Israel?

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              16 days ago

              bro she was in cali previously to this. Cali is a pretty regularly dem state, one of the more dem leaning ones in the entire country.

              Obviously bernie is farther left, but we’re getting into the territory of literal communists and socialists at that point.

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                  15 days ago

                  broaden my horizons to what? Candidates that i don’t fundamentally align with? They exist, they’re out there. It’s not what i want though.

                  And to be clear, calling the harris campaign right leaning is only feeding more into republicans who think all democrats are communist pigs vying for power over other people.

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      Yeah idk why you’re getting downvoted, that was one of the most disappointing parts of it.

      She could have tried to wriggle around it a bit more rhetorically but she just went “I’ll bang my head against the wall with Israel just like we’ve been doing till now.”

      In general it was a pretty bad showing from Harris, and Walz did only a bit better.

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        19 days ago

        The downvotes are because that topic matters a lot, but it’s also used to try to force people to become single issue voters, so they’ll vote against her, all the while knowing that Trump loves genocide too, but let’s not mention that.

        So if you wanna attack Harris on that issue, please do. You should. But remember to include Trump’s stance as well, if you’re trying to talk about an upcoming election.

        Or hey, do whatever you like, right? It’s just that simplistic comments often get simplistic responses (i.e., downvotes).

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            18 days ago

            I generally consider Republican candidates and ideas non-starters. Not even worthy of consideration. When I criticize Democrats, the “Trump is not an option” is implied.

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              18 days ago

              But then your comments are identical to those posted by people whose goal is to undermine democratic support through single issues in order to create voter apathy and let Trump win.

              It’s not the message people are downvoting it’s the effect. If you don’t do anything to separate your message from this type of malicious attack, it’ll unfortunately be taken as that.

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                17 days ago

                You’re making bold assumptions about people based simply on the fact that they are criticizing the people currently in power for what they’re currently doing. That’s your fault not theirs stop doing that

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                  16 days ago

                  I’m not assuming anything.

                  The right is attacking the left to try to reduce voter turnout. They do this by criticizing Democrats for “not being left enough” even though they are the most viable leftish option and the Republicans are worse at that exact thing. They’re doing this all over the world right now but just in the US. We HAVE to stop this attack.

                  When you criticize the left for not being left enough without adding nuance or adding that the right is much worse on that topic, you’re either purposefully or accidentally participating in the attack whether you like it or not.

                  No criticism, just facts.

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              18 days ago

              Because everyone who is interested enough in politics to discuss it online is either voting for him or aware of that fact already.

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                18 days ago

                So? If one of the 2 outcomes will inevitably come true, we really cannot talk about one without at least weighting the other

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        19 days ago

        i mean, it was a pretty bad show in terms of the one question she was asked. I’m not really sure why that’s surprising to people.

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    18 days ago

    She approved genocide and pretended to care about global warming.

    So yes, by democratic standards, that was pretty low.