I would caution against coming at it so strongly; I think it’s possible to be firm and call out the privilege and the reality of the situation firmly but with civility. Let them be the unreasonable one, it will kill the energy behind their message.

Yep! This, a thousand times over. I’m also straight, white, a man, and financially secure. By all accounts I’d be fine or probably benefit for a short while from a trump victory. But I also fundamentally view voting not as just a right but a responsibility. As such I also view protest voting as fundamentally irresponsible, and a betrayal of my fellow Americans, principally those less privileged than myself.

At the end of the day, sticking your head in the sand and “vOtInG yOuR cOnScIeNcE” doesn’t change the calculus of it being a spoiler vote and makes it more likely for trump to win, plain and simple. This directly increases the net suffering in the world by not only accelerating the genocide of the people of Gaza, but also making the US less safe and welcoming for a large swath of the population. It is fundamentally a selfish, reckless, and conceited position to take; it prioritizes one’s individual feelings over the collective safety of our society.

Yes this is very well said. Whenever I see these kinds of comments I can’t help but wonder just how much privilege the author is conveniently disregarding.

I got into words one time with an acquaintance over the idea of protest voting. He really got under my skin because he said something to the effect of “well if trump wins I’ll be fine, and if I’m not I’ll just leave” - it’s like yeah dude, you can do that, plenty of other people can’t.

Precisely. This crowd loves to talk a good talk about the ratchet or the Overton window, but offers absolutely nothing in terms of practical, realistic solutions.

No, a third party progressive with zero national name recognition and no ballot access in a majority of the country is not going to magically win 270 electoral votes if you write them in. If going viral was that easy everyone would do it. So grow up and offer a practical solution, or shut the fuck up.

Satchmo Suckmo

• the urinal shitter (exactly what it sounds like, he was never caught)
• a notable/well-liked student athlete was suffering from depression and sadly took his own life
• the cool young teacher ended up being a pedo and his victim was a 15 y/o girl he was tutoring
• someone called in violent threats to interfere with notable school events (sports games, tests, etc.); this happened multiple times and then we never heard about it again, nobody in my circle ever heard anything about who it was

I was briefly able to get to https://archive.org/donate - I’m going to kick them a few bucks and recommend anyone else who can afford to also do so.

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I say we go full Streisand effect on whatever dickhead is trying to censor them.